Two of South Africa's three referees of Women's Tests have asked questions of each other. We have published Kim Smit's questions of Eugenia Daniels. Now we publish the Q&A between Kim and Eugenia whose father was also a Test referee and is now one of South Africa's selector of referees.

Kim Smit (pictured, right): Being the daughter of a military man were you also punished with push-ups or did you get away with murder?

Eugenia Daniels: When we were younger it never got to the stage where he punished us. The look he gave us was enough to stop any mischief we were planning. Our punishment was left to my mom; he was one who bought the sweets after the hidings. Nowadays we get away with murder! Old age (did you see all the grey hair?) has mellowed him a lot. Now and again he'll give us a warning: "Julle is nie te groot om 'n pak te kry nie", but that is usually where it stays.

Kim Smit: We have been on a few tourneys together and have shared rooms and secrets. Care to share the advice your grandma gave you (and we used) for sore muscles with our other colleagues?

Eugenia Daniels: Kimmie, Kimmie! Ladies never tell their secrets, especially this one. We will never hear the end of it; Peet will never let us forget it. 

Kim Smit: Do you think you can learn as much from a bad performance as from a good one?

Eugenia Daniels: I think I can learn more from a bad performance than from a good one. From a bad performance I know where I made the mistakes how to improve on them and I'll definitely do my utmost not to make the same mistakes again.

Kim Smit: Tell us about your food experience in Kenya?

Eugenia Daniels: On our last day in Kenya Cobus Wessels decided to organise a sight-seeing trip for us. At the end of the trip we ended up in a rural part of Kenya and he decided that we should stop for a bite to eat. As we are walking into this 'restaurant' I saw that they did not have a refrigerator and that the meat was hanging off hooks in a room, a normal room and on top of that there are flies in the room. I showed this to Peet Labuschagne and the two of us decided that we were not going to eat there. Cobus went into kitchen and chose the piece of meat. After the chef had prepared it he brought it to us and tore it up, with his hands, in front of us. He placed it on the table. We did not get individual plates or cutlery. Every one had to eat out of the same plate with their hands. Peet looked at me I looked at him and at that stage both of us were adamant that we were not eating there. But we had a tormentor with us - Cobus Wessels! - and we were not allowed to leave our table before we ate all our food. I had about four bites to eat. I think Peet had even less.

Kim Smit: If you were elected president what is the first thing you would change and why?

Eugenia Daniels: I would change our education system. I believe that education is the key to most if not all of our problems.

Kim Smit: Beauty or Brains?

Eugenia Daniels: Brains but having both is definitely an advantage!

Kim Smit: Which rugby player would you like to be stuck in a ruck with?

Eugenia Daniels: I have found the person I would like to be stuck with, in a lot of things; hopefully a ruck won't be one of them. But if I had to choose a rugby player I would like to be stuck in a ruck with, I'd have to go with Saia Faingaa (Reds hooker), yummy!

Kim Smit: If you played rugby which position would you prefer and why?

Eugenia Daniels: Openside flank. I think that a game is won or lost in the back row. The openside flank does the hard work, the dirty work that is the exciting part of the game for me.     

Kim Smit: Do you consider yourself brave to be a woman and referee rugby?

Eugenia Daniels: I've never really considered it. I love rugby, my mom wouldn't let me play rugby, and my dad was a referee and so it was the natural thing for me to do. I think for ladies like you who've refereed a lot longer than I have and who've basically set the platform for the rest of us to follow, that was brave. I didn't have to fight to be accepted; you ladies fought that battle for me. 

Kim Smit: Any favourite beauty products and tips?

Eugenia Daniels: Moisturise! Never leave home without it. Makes your skin soft and smooth!

Kim Smit: Would you ever go on a reality TV show. If so which one?

Eugenia Daniels: Yes, Dancing with the Stars or Strictly Come Dancing (as it’s called in SA).

Kim Smit: Could you tell us some of your defects?

Eugenia Daniels: My sisters would say I'm a bit slow. It sometimes takes a while for me to catch on. I don't think I have any real defects. Have you picked up on some defect I'm not aware off?

Kim Smit: Any strange routines before a match?

Eugenia Daniels: Don't think so but what’s normal for me might seem strange to someone else.

Kim Smit: We all know male siblings always compete against each other. You have two sisters. Was or is there ever any competition going on between you?

Eugenia Daniels: Not so much with the youngest one but with the eldest one and me - we definitely tend to compete with each other. Though she always wins but one of these days!

Kim Smit: How do you feel about neutral refs for the South Africa vs British & Irish Lions tour in South Africa this year?

Eugenia Daniels: I would have liked to see some of our up and coming referees get the opportunity to referee some of the midweek games. Would've been great exposure for them.

CLICK HERE for Kim Smit's questions of Eugenia Daniels!